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ig-news-digest       wednesday, january 10 2001       volume 04 : number 007

today's subjects:
  [ig-news] late bloom lyrics     [dee yellowlees <>]
  [ig-news] re: ig calendar                  [tara lane <>]
  [ig-news] ig article          [sarah pinsker <>]
  [ig-news] bmi article                     [sherlyn koo <>]
  [ig-news] winex article...(really, really, really long)  ["amy m." <indigr]


date: tue, 9 jan 2001 13:43:53 -0800
from: dee yellowlees <>
subject: [ig-news] late bloom lyrics

[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at  these lyrics are for amy's
new song which is available for download on mp3 from the daemon

here's the best we could come up with  (with a little help from amy...if anyone knows the two missing words...please help us out)  d:)

i won't be a pawn
we roughed it up when we were young
i won't say so much for that
what do you do when it is done
cause i know
we grow
when it's over

i used to dream
with all the force of soylent green
lazy geese and the weather warm
all my life  of ____________________
well i know
we grow
when it's over

all that time
i spent walking behind
i don't mind
cause now i know

they ran us out of town
aw, c'mon they cut us down
raise the flag of the fealty
all the life of ___________
well i know
we grow
when it's over

all that time
you were walking the line, well
i don't mind
cause now i know

all the time
i spent walking behind you, well
i don't mind
cause now i know
the grow
is over
we grow

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date: tue, 9 jan 2001 05:52:32 -0800
from: tara lane <>
subject: [ig-news] re: ig calendar

[sherlyn's note: this is an excerpt of a message which was
originally sent to the indigo girls mailing list at]

if you want the 2001 ig calendar, save this email.  i have finished the
calendar, but it is a monster size-wise.  i will be uploading the
calendar month by month as i have time, and i'll let you know as the
various months are uploaded.  the calendar is better than ever due to
high quality scans and a lot of color, but this goodness comes at a
price of download time, so, be patient with your pc's, they'll be
working hard to bring this to you.  i suggest using the highest speed
connection that you have access to. (ie - if you have t1 at work, now's
the time to use it - this of course, is only helpful if there's a color
printer at work, or a cd-writer, otherwise, you'd have it on your work
pc with no way to get it home...) anyhow...

here's how to get this month, and all future months...
1. go to
2. click on "storage".
3. click on "shared".
4. click in checkbox to right of "jan01cal.ppt" (if you have last
year's calendar, no need to download this month, because it's the same
as last year's picture for jan 01.)
5. if you do not have powerpoint, click in checkbox to right of
"ppview97.exe" (this is a freeware viewer so that you can view and
print powerpoint presentations, even if you don't have powerpoint.
6. click "download".
7. in the next screen, click "download" below the file you'd like to
download.  a dialogue box will appear.
8. choose 'save this file to disk', click "ok".  pick where you want
the file to go on your harddrive, and you're set.

after the files have downloaded, simply open the .ppt file.  if you
downloaded the viewer, you'll have to run the .exe file and install the
viewer, *then* you'll be able to open the .ppt file.

i'll let y'all know when subsequent months are ready for download.
files vary in size from 400kb or so, to 8 mb, depending on color and
quality.  for those without color printers, i'm sorry i can't honor
requests to print them out and mail them to you at this time, but
perhaps some other nice soul on the list can help you out if you ask
them.  in addition, if you're a mac user, and this doesn't work for
you, i can't help you at all, i'm not apple-literate.


- -tara

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date: tue, 9 jan 2001 20:38:57 -0500
from: sarah pinsker <>
subject: [ig-news] ig article

[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at  i'll forward the article
in a minute...]

bmi's trade mag has a feature  article and picture - its  also up on their


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date: wed, 10 jan 2001 13:25:40 +1100 (est)
from: sherlyn koo <>
subject: [ig-news] bmi article

hey folks,

here's the article sarah mentioned - the url to see it online is

- -sherlyn

- ---begin article---
indigo girls
marry music and social activism

by rob patterson

the indigo girls have risen beyond being best-selling artists
to become part of the modern cultural landscape, thanks to the
way their songs blend the personal and universal. but after
more than 25 years of friendship and making music together,
some 15 of them on the national recording scene, amy ray and
emily sailers have much to draw from. "we've been through all
the things you go through as a family: death. marriage. people
being born," says ray.

and like good members of their own clan and the human family,
the indigo girls have generously shared their bounty and
personal concerns by working for the social causes they
believe in - the rights of women and indigenous peoples,
environmentalism, economic justice, gay and lesbian rights,
and gun control - as tirelessly as they pursue their music and
taking it to their fans on the road. "the most natural thing
for us is to marry social activism with our music because our
music is so deeply rooted in life issues," explains sailers.

the duo met in elementary school, and built their career from
the grassroots up. after a number of independent records on
their own indigo label, they signed with epic records in 1988.
since then, the girls have enjoyed 10 popular releases, the
latest of which, indigo girls: retrospective, is a 16-track
overview of their career augmented by two new songs. in the
process, they've won a grammy award and earned numerous gold
and platinum album certifications. indigo girls songs have
been featured in the films philadelphia and girls on the side,
and the duo has issued two home videos.

the two talented singer/songwriters have all along displayed
their commitment to touching fans in direct ways, such as
their 1993 "ten-dollar tour," where tickets and t-shirts were
all priced at $10, or a 1998 series of free concerts in high
schools throughout the south, followed by q&a sessions with
their student listeners. the indigo girls have also remained
committed to musical cross-pollination with such activities as
their "suffragette sessions" tour mixing female artists from a
variety of styles, and a week in cuba in 1999 collaborating
and performing with artists there.  when not making music or
pursuing their many favored causes, ray runs her independent
daemon records label while sailers owns a restaurant in
decatur, ga.

when the duo put out their first major label album, ray told
an interviewer, "we never expected to be on a major label and
we're a little nervous about it. we'll more or less function
the way we always have. no matter how many people we play for,
it's always important to reach each one of them.  that isn't
going to change." and it hasn't.

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date: tue, 9 jan 2001 19:35:24 -0700
from: "amy m." <>
subject: [ig-news] winex article...(really, really, really long)

[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at]

as per someone's request (i can't remember who now), here you go...

emily saliers of the indigo girls
by bob blumer

"ooooh, this is making me feel good all over. yeah, baby, rrreally
good. and it's sooo big. mmmm, and so soft. it's making my lips
quiver. owww!"

there i was, in an anonymous memphis hotel room, in the heat of a
sweltering summer day, clutching the telephone receiver with one hand
while the other hand was busy...pouring wine.

don't get any ideas. i was turned on by the occasion, but that's because
it was wine x's first-ever simultaneous telephone tasting. my partner on
the other end of the line was indigo girls' emily saliers. i'd heard emily
was a co-owner of watershed, hands-down atlanta's hippest wine
bar-restaurant. but when i learned she actively chooses the restaurant's
wines, i knew we had to hook up.

easier said than done. emily was in the midst of a marathon nine-month,
160-city tour for the indigo girls' latest release, come on now
social. and i was spending the entire summer criss-crossing the continent
in a giant toastermobile. (see the next issue of wine x for a slice of
life on the road.) atlanta was on my schedule, though. so i called
watershed to see what we could do.

the restaurant, actually located in decatur, just outside atlanta, has an
exceptionally well-chosen wine list, and the kitchen's sophisticated riffs
on down-home southern cuisine are to die for. (i'm still jonesing for some
of the white bean hummus.) over more than a few glasses of wine,
watershed's owners (sans emily) and i became fast friends. susan owens,
and old college friend of emily's from tulane, is in charge of the
restaurant's retail section, and she and emily both buy the wines. ross
jones deals with accounting and business operations. and leslie zweben
oversees the kitchen. it's all very cozy: four best friends; two couples
(emily and leslie; susan and ross); one restaurant. but still no emily.

but where there's a will, there's a way. so i had four california reds
shipped to emily and me: beringer private reserve cabernet sauvignon,
silver oak cabernet sauvignon, joseph phelps insignia and cateau st. jean
cinq cepages - all from the excellent 1995 vintage. (thank you,
darryl.) on a weekend off from her tour, emily called me from her getaway
cabin she shares with sue, ross and leslie. over the phone, we sniffed,
sipped, gurgled and laughed as we tasted our way through our wines.

emily saliers: i'm drooling over these wines. i can't wait.

bob blumer: let's try the cinq cepages first.

(slurping sounds.)

bb: can you describe where you are right now? i mean, without giving the
specific latitude and longitude.

es: i'm in a cabin in north georgia, where we're all seated around this
gorgeous poplar table. and the dogs are outside barking 'cause they can't
come in.

bb: is there a lake?

es: a couple miles away.

bb: heat?

es: yup.

bb: plumbing?

es: (undecipherable laughter) and we're in a valley surrounded by
trees. pretty bucolic.

bb: what's goin' on?

es: we're skippin' the beringer.

bb: this is gonna be a short interview. whadda'ya think?

es: i get a lot of alcohol in the nose and a lot of cherry up
front. cherry, chewy, smoky. we've had the beringer reserves since '91.the
'93 reserve's one of my favorites. we stocked up on the '93s cause they
just blew our minds. all the beringer reserve cabernets are so balanced,
deep and chewy.

bb: do you have a private stash?

es: yeah, i keep most of it at a friend's house. they have a
temperature-controlled room. their stuff's all neatly packed away in
wooden wine racks and ours, of course - since i'm on the road and our
lives are in limbo - are still in the case boxes.

bb: how many bottles do you have?

es: around 700.

bb: do you take wine on the road with you?

es: no, we drink wine on the road, but it's too hard to transport. amy
[ray] (other half of the indigo girls) doesn't drink but most of the other
band members enjoy wine, so after a show we'll turn up the music and just
sit and groove. we're not focused on the wine, so it's not really worth
bringing a bunch of prize bottles. what i like is going into town on a day
off and visiting a local wine shop. i pick out some of my favorites that
are pretty reasonably priced, like the grgich hills cabernet and mason
sauvignon blanc. they're delicious. and estancia...the meritage. i'm
really into finding wines in the $20 range that're really good.

bb: since you tour so much, doesn't it kill you to be away from all those
bottles for so much of the year?

es: for our cellar we only pick vintages that're going to get better with
age. they'll sit there for five or six years...i'll forget i even have
them. it's like this little present for the future. when i'm home, we go
over to sue's place a lot...they have a pool and a place to cook
out. that's when we crack our nice bottles.

bb: should we move on to the silver oak next?

es: silver oak is one of my favorites, too. a few months ago we drank an
'84 and a '78 alexander valley. they were so different from each other,
but each was just wonderful. i love silver oak wines - the cedar and the
oak. i love all that woodsy stuff. (tastes.) yup, on the nose, burnt cedar
and pepper.

bb: way more tannin than the other two.

es: much more like a classic bordeaux. you get that smoke and that cedar -
my favorite kind of flavor. that's why i like bordeaux. you have your
first sip and it's like chewing on a pencil. i love that quality in big
fat reds. this is the most fun interview i've ever done in my life.

bb: do you follow others' advice in terms of what to buy and what to lay

es: not really, i just go with the mac daddys that i'm sure of. like all
of these wines, for instance. and word of mouth. like the cinq
cepages. sue found that. we just go by our palate a lot.

bb: do you remember our first glass of wine?

es: it was at a seder, when i was about 10 years old. i remember thinking,
oh my god, there are four of these and you get to drink them all. and then
it was a very long time until i had another glass of wine. sue really
turned me on to wine in a big way.

bb: on the lilith fair tour...any favorite artists you played with or hung
out with?

es: we met a lot of people on lilith fair. as a matter of fact, we got our
whole new band there. they were playing with sinead o'connor and john
reynolds. amy was asking for sinead's help on some songs, and sinead
suggested we talk to john. so amy started talking to john about her songs,
and we started playing poker with them backstage...

bb: that's how you audition musicians?

es: they had music blasting, they were drinking red wine - cheap red, but
that's okay, we won't judge them for that - and we were hanging out. next
thing you know, we're talking about going over to john's flat in
london. and that's where we started our last record, over there. lilith
was a definite shot in the arm for our career. we were feeling kinda
bummed. and then we got out there and there was all that inspiration and
great really helped us a lot.

bb: has sinead ever forgiven you for stealing her band?

es: sinead changes a lot. she's always reinventing herself. she moved on
to other things. and not because of us. the band would've played with her
again and we would've worked out the timing.

bb: is there anyone you haven't played with that you'd like to?

es: i'd love to play with stevie wonder. i'd love for gladys knight to
sing on one of our records. i'd love to do something with joni (mitchell),
my personal favorite.

bb: we're on to the insignia.

(sounds of slurping)

es: wow. awesome. very long finish. we're gonna do a quick comparison of
the insignia and the silver oak.

bb: being the pinot whore that i am, i'm much more drawn to the beringer,
just because it's softer. it's funny, if you blind tasted it you might
think it was a killer pinot.

es: i hear you. i tasted that. and i'm not so much of a pinot person. some
pinots are so strawberry. so that's probably my least favorite red.

bb: what're they saying in the background there?

es: sue's saying that the silver oak carries you from the beginning all
the way to the end. it's equally balanced. she agrees with you, bob, about
the pinot nose on the beringer. hey, do you know the ponzi reserve, the

bb: no.

es: oh, you gotta get some of that. i'll send you a bottle of mine. you'll
dig it.

bb: one hundred and sixty shows is an awfully long tour. do you burn out?

es: actually, it's pretty well-balanced. we go home every three weeks or
so and don't play more than four shows in a row. and after touring we take
breaks. the four of usare going to france and italy in
september. (sips.) by the way, we're all sweating profusely.

bb: (laughs) this is tough work. what made the four of you decide to open
a restaurant?

es: we wanted to go into some kind of business together. i was just coming
off the road, had about a half year off, and the four of us got together
and tossed around some ideas and...

bb: what were some of your other ideas?

es: like, a moving business (group laughter). we even thought of a name
for it: elers family movers. it was so silly because it had our first name
initials (emily, leslie, ross, sue) in the title.

bb: it could've been huge.

es: yeah. but instead we decided to open watershed. we took our
inspiration from stores like dean & deluca and oakville grocery - a
cornucopia of hedonistic delights. we wanted it to be a mom-and-pop, and
we wanted it to be in decatur, which is a small community. we wanted a
place where you could come in and feel casual and have an awesome wine by
the glass. you can take wine home from the retail section, you can pick up
flowers for your date or loved ones and then have some memorable food. but
the longer our chef, scott peacock, stayed with us, the more watershed
became focused on the restaurant aspect. we rely on fresh vegetables and
seasonal and organic produce. we support local farmers. nothing comes from
a can.

bb: (reacting to background chatter) what're they saying?

es: sue's eating chocolate with the insignia. she's freaking out.

bb: you said that amy doesn't drink at all?

es: not at all.

bb: did she ever?

es: she did. but she didn't stop because she had to. she's just very
disciplined and it didn't do anything for her.

bb: so you don't have to hide your wine in a paper bag when you're
drinking around her.

es: not at all. she's totally cool about it. she's not judgmental about
it. she's a huge mountain biker, hiker and all that stuff. i'm the really
hedonistic one of the duo.

bb: and isn't that part of what makes working relationships work...that
each person brings something different to the table?

es: there's no doubt our differences have been why we've been together so

bb: when you pick the social issues you two champion, do you have to
discuss them first to see where you side on them?

es: for most every issue we feel the same way. our stances come from the
belief that people should each other well, and there's great disparity
between those who have and those who have not. we just look to systems of
oppression, like corporate globalization for one, and try to get a
foothold and do grassroots activism and work with mentors. so, for the
most part, we're really coming from the same paradigm.

bb: how do you feel about the napster issue?

es: i'm not sure yet. amy and i are a big bootleg band. if you come and
tape our show, that's fine with us. but i also feel for musicians
struggling and making their own records for 10 grand and then their music
gets up on the 'net and someone's able to trade it without paying for
it. then they can't even scrape a living together.

bb: did you ever think you'd find yourself in the position of being so
commercially successful?

es: no way. when i was a kid i used to write stories about girls who
played guitar, who were on their way to success. i always played in
clubs, and amy played in clubs, and then we joined forces. then we ended
up going to the same school. but it was always like, hey, let's learn some
songs together. or let's play this nightclub. it was little by little.

bb: what was the sensation when your first album came out and you became
a classic overnight success?

es: well, i never expected to be successful like that. we were just a
couple friends making music.

bb: how'd you deal with it?

es: it was hard at the beginning. i mean, overnight we became familiar
names. the record sold a lot better than we expected. and then we won a
grammy. that's about the only time in our 20-year professional
relationship that amy and i have ever fought...right when all that stuff
was happening.

bb: what'd you fight about?

es: it's just that when you get so stressed you fight with the people you
love most, 'cause you're just so fucking stressed. it was just all of a
sudden. before, when we were a bar band, we'd play 13 nights in a row 'til
three in the morning. but somehow it all changed when there was so much
focus and pressure. and the gigs got bigger, adn we were doing press, tv
and all this stuff we'd never done before. i think it just kinda freaked
us out. i mean, it was weird. it was a huge transition. but then
everything settled down. so we feel really good that we're still a
grassroots band with a bar band mentality.

bb: it doesn't take long to realize that you're the same person on and off

es: amy and i never had an image or anything. we were never sold by
image. which is one reason why we've had trouble getting a stronger
foothold as the years pass. we're not at the zenith of our career right
now. we're hanging on, but it's not the way it used to be when, say, rites
of passage came out. now it's more like we're just playing our gigs and
thankful for our fans who remain loyal. but there's no image that we're
selling. we dress the way we dress. and the fact that we're gay has a lot
to do with it. there's a lot of sexism in the's such a
male-dominated industry. and we just fight against that stuff.

bb: has it become any easier over the years?

es: i think so, some. i think it's easier to be out as an artist than it
is to be out as a teacher, or even as an athlete. for us, it's always been
easy because we're entertainers. i remember when i was an adolescent - not
even when i was coming out, but just during my adolescence - and there
were certain artists i really hooked into. they were my outlet in
life. and so i think, especially if you're a young, gay person and you
have a gay artist whose music you're really into, it's a very strong,
positive force during a difficult time.

bb: how old were you when you came out?

es: about 20.

bb: does it make you proud to be an example like that for the next

es: i feel really fortunate across the board...that we're able to live an
honest life. it's a lot harder for a lot of people. i don't know if i'd
have the courage if i were in other circumstances. but this is my
situation, so i just try to be as responsible as possible.

bb: do you ever get involved in politics?

es: we don't endorse candidates. but if you look closely enough, you can
tell who we might vote for. we mostly support issues and causes, not
candidates. we've had people who've wanted to come (to our shows) and do
canvassing, but we draw the line there.

bb: i'm sure george w. tried to enlist you to write his campaign theme

es: i have to say, i hope he doesn't get elected. i hope there's a day
when the death penalty is abolished in this country. it's barbaric and
wrong. and a day when politicians aren't heavily influenced by
money. we need more parties - stronger third, fourth, fifth parties,
whatever it takes.

amy m.

"we are not empty-headed celebrities."
                -the goddess, amy ray

"women together is a powerful thing, especially when you join it with
                -the goddess, emily saliers

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