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ig-news-digest          monday, july 24 2000          volume 03 : number 127

today's subjects:
  [ig-news] article/amy interview sacramento bee          []
  [ig-news] * igc * eugene show  + article    ["chris w." <>]
  [ig-news] transcript "before they were rock stars" vh1 7/21/00  [diane won]
  [ig-news] july 21, 2000 setlist/review                  []
  [ig-news] ig interview san diego    [renee carson <>]
  [ig-news] san diego article               [sherlyn koo <>]


date: sun, 23 jul 2000 11:55:54 edt
subject: [ig-news] article/amy interview sacramento bee

<a href="">indig
o girls: color them bolder with latest switched-on cd</a>

text of article/interview:

by rachel leibrock, bee staff writer   (published july 21, 2000)

the way amy ray sees it, she and musical partner emily saliers were in the
right place at the right time when they broke onto the national music scene
with their 1989 hit single "closer to fine." if their folk-rock band, indigo
girls, were to debut today, she figures, it probably wouldn't be so easy.

"we got lucky when we were first starting out," ray says in a telephone
interview from deer valley, utah, a stop on the tour. "we got a lot of
airplay with one song and have had nowhere near that level of success since."

though they're not mainstream-radio staples, the indigo girls, who perform
tonight at the memorial auditorium, continue to hold steady with a devoted
legion of fans. their latest cd, "come on now social," marks their 15th year
and ninth album.

produced by john reynolds, who does double duty on drums, "come on now
social" features ray and saliers plugged in and amplified -- a bit of a shock
for anyone who remembers the band only for its sweet acoustic melodies. in
reality, it's a sound the band has been inching toward for the last few
years. the dulcet harmonies, pop melodies and biting lyrics are still there,
only now -- to quote spinal tap -- it all goes to 11.

"the difference with this record is that there's a certain committed feeling
to it," says ray. "there's a boldness to it that we may have not had before.
it's probably because reynolds was able to bridge the gap between me and

the album's opening track, "go," is a raucous call to arms that draws on a
run-in the band had with south carolina school officials. in 1998, the group
was banned from playing at two south carolina high schools because parents
complained that ray and saliers were gay. student protests ensued, resulting
in some students being suspended. the indigo girls ended up playing a
free-to-all-ages club gig to show their thanks. "i know you kids can stand
the rain/i know you kids are upsetters," sings ray. " 'cause rock is cool/but
the struggle is better."

"some of those kids were suspended right before graduation," ray recalls. "it
made me want to pay homage to them and to the people who came before them.
kids are marketed to, sold to and told they have the power to spend money.
they get it that this is stuff is cool -- the image, the music -- but they
realized in the midst of it that this activism in their lives was important
as well."

activism is an important element of the indigo girls' music. ray and saliers
use their musical platform to raise money and awareness of a variety of
issues and programs, including gun control, the environment, the death
penalty, and gay and lesbian rights.

ray knows that the indigo girls' outspoken activism has earned the band a
reputation (among many mainstream-radio listeners, at least) as heavy, overly
earnest and humorless.

"the only time i feel weighted down by our political activism is when people
make fun of us for it," ray says. "yes, we talk about activism a lot. i would
say we see everything through that lens, but really we just have a lot of
fun; we play lot of music that's just music. music is a great release. you
don't always have to talk about politics."

ray also disputes the notion that the indigo girls' music appeals primarily
to lesbians seeking an entertainment role model.

"that's what people assume," she says. "it is a very vocal part of our
audience. they're looking for a connection, and we want to support that. but
sometimes we play somewhere and the majority of the audience is gay, and
sometimes we play a street festival and it's all frat boys singing along.
then you feel good and realize it's all sorts of people, and you realize you
can get along."

it's this steadfast belief in their fans that keeps the indigo girls rocking
on, despite the misconceptions and a commercial musical environment tha''s
sometimes less than friendly toward two older lesbians playing political folk

"the way we fit into the music business is we keep playing live,' says ray.
"we're lucky to have an audience."

christy berger

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date: fri, 21 jul 2000 13:54:52 -0700
from: "chris w." <>
subject: [ig-news] * igc * eugene show  + article

[sherlyn's note: this is an excerpt of a message which was
originally sent to the indigo girls mailing list at]


- ---primary set---
* ozilline
* cold beer and a remote control
* chickenman
* least complicated
* scooter boys  (i was prayin for some soc from amy, but it didn't happen)
* andy
* gone again
* closer to fine
* shed your skin (with mrs. fun)
* emilie's untitled "church" song (the last hidden track on cons)
* trouble
* kid fears
* get out the map
* faye tucker (which amy dedicated to george w. bush)
* midnight train to georgia (with spearhead)
* shame on you

- --- encore ---
* go
* gallileo

the article below  was taken from the register guard website (a eugene
you can find it at:

there are a couple of photos there too.

chris m. wilson


july 21, 2000

caught in the act:
mood right for indigo girls

by lewis taylor
the register-guard

it was hard to say who was more grateful at wednesday night's cuthbert
amphitheater season-opener with the indigo girls - the fans or the duo known
to many simply as "amy and emily."

"thanks, y'all" was the refrain offered throughout the evening by emily
saliers, one half of the folk duo from athens, ga., and the crowd returned
the gesture with screams of applause and their own signs of appreciation.

"it's the indigo girls; you've gotta love 'em," kathy yonker of eugene said
after the 90-minute set. "it was a good show, a good venue and this was a
pretty good crowd. the girls were great; they were very happy."

saliers, her musical partner amy ray and a four-piece backup band delivered
a crowd-pleasing show filled with folky old favorites and newer, more
electrified, songs off the band's new album, "come now social." warm weather
and clear skies made for a classic evening of outdoor summer music.

"it's a beautiful night and we're glad you shared it with us," saliers said
at one point.

despite their strong following in eugene, which was heightened by a 1993
opening appearance for the grateful dead at autzen stadium, the indigo girls
filled only half of the 4,000-seat cuthbert amphitheater, according to the
box office staff. still, few fans seemed to mind the extra leg room. the
green was blanketed with lawn chairs and ground spreads, and the dance area
and front bleacher section filled up shortly after the show got under way.

even though the venue was far from full, fans began lining up for the show
as early as 12:30 a.m. wednesday - at least that's when sue dewhitt and
kathy miller, both of eugene, showed up with lawn chairs and a bag full of

"when you've been in the front row of an indigo girls concert, you always
want to get back in the front row because they are so good," said dewhitt,
who estimated she had seen the duo perform live 13 or 14 times. "they have a
lot of interaction with the crowd."

saliers and ray delivered as promised, chatting the crowd up between songs
and presenting themselves as friends, not rock stars, from the moment they
stepped on stage. they made reference to their opening gig for the grateful
dead and thanked the crowd throughout the show.

after a jazzy opening set by the southern duo mrs. fun and a set of socially
conscious hip-hop from the group spearhead (both of which featured guest
appearances by saliers and ray), the indigo girls took the stage at
twilight. their fans rushed to the dance pit at the front of the stage.

"hey, y'all," saliers said, and the band launched into "ozilline," a
mountain jam featuring ray on lead vocals and mandolin and saliers on banjo.
next, the pair segued into the more meditative song off the new album, "cold
beer and remote control," and reached back in the past for an old favorite,
the rambling "chicken man."

throughout the night, the indigo girls kept the deck shuffled. they followed
a sweet saliers song, "andy," with a more ragged song, ray's "gone again."
they showed off the vocal harmonizing that made them famous on songs such as
"least complicated," and turned up the juice on some newer, more rockin',
songs such as "trouble."

an indigo girls concert would not be an indigo girls concert without a
political message. midway through the show, saliers broke in with a warning
not to vote for a ballot initiative known as the "student protection act,"
which prohibits public school instruction encouraging, promoting or
sanctioning homosexuality. she quoted spearhead's michael franti: "all the
freaky people make the beauty in the world."

at one point, the indigo girls invited connie grauer and kim zick from the
opening act mrs. fun up on stage for an instrumentally thick,
distortion-filled medley with a booming beat. spearhead also came out on
stage for a crowd-pleasing version of "midnight train to georgia," led by a
barefoot franti.

there appeared to be two different generations of indigo girls fans at
wednesday night's show: those who had been listening to the band since the
'80s, who came to hear the older songs, and younger fans drawn by the newer
material along with the old classics.

the indigo girls didn't disappoint either contingency, and sing-alongs to
old classics were mixed in with fist-pumping new songs. at one point, during
an encore version of the song "go," the duo almost pulled off an indigo
girls miracle when they whipped the crowd in front into a near mosh pit

the primarily female crowd at wednesday night's show was broken up by a few
male fans of emily and amy. charlie ruff of cleveland came with his friend
ed feil of springfield. ruff said he had been listening to the indigo girls
since 1984.

"your chance of finding a date is kind of slim, which is cool. that's not
why i came here," ruff said, making reference to the indigo girls' strong
following in the lesbian community. "i like all their music."

ruff and other fans felt lucky to catch the indigo girls in an intimate
outdoor setting, but for some the best seats in the house were not in
cuthbert amphitheater. at least 100 indigo girls eavesdroppers gathered on
the banks of the river to catch the spillover from the amphitheater, and
several dozen more floated behind the stage in canoes, kayaks and rafts.

john henry of eugene brought his 8-year-old son, ben, for a picnic by the
river. sitting on a blanket in the late afternoon sun, the pair dined on ham
sandwiches, curry salad and watermelon.

"the acoustics are not as good as they are inside, but the price is a whole
lot better," henry said, referring to the $28 asking price for the indigo

henry criticized the city for making cuthbert ticket prices too high and for
not offering enough summer shows. so far, three additional shows have been
scheduled for the cuthbert. officials with the hult center, which operates
the venue, promise more dates.

if there was a criticism to be made of wednesday's show (aside from the
sound, which became muddied at times), it could be said that the indigo
girls were too polished. they delivered a clean, controlled set, and the
songs were kept on a short leash. the tunes rarely strayed too far from the
recorded versions, and aside from ray's twisting, squinting guitar jams, the
show lacked emotional intensity.

still, most fans weren't looking for fiery stage antics or improvisation;
they were looking for amy and emily to sing the songs they knew. their
classics proved to be the most popular, and the show ended with a version of
"galileo" that left fans such as becky hanson of vida grinning.

"i thought it was beautiful," hanson said after the show. "the energy that
was in the air ... it was all great."

entertainment reporter lewis taylor can be reached by phone at 485-1234,
ext. 2512, and by e-mail at

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date: sat, 22 jul 2000 00:12:56 edt
from: diane wong <>
subject: [ig-news] transcript "before they were rock stars" vh1 7/21/00

[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at]

vh1 - before they were rock stars - july 21, 2000

<closer to fine>'s atlanta's favorite daughters, the indigo girls.  with dueling
guitars and a dose of social consciousness, amy ray and emily saliers
brought folk music back into the mainstream in the late eighties.  their
years of hard work paid off in platinum records and grammy gold, but back at
laurel ridge school, this partnership started out less than perfect.

[1989] emily: "we went to the same elementary school.  i was already playing
guitar.  i had this little group called the "blue skies".  and i guess that
really made amy jealous or something.  i was perfectly willing to get along
with amy--it was her problem." <amy laughs>
amy: "i was jealous." <emily laughs>

     amy was used to being in charge.  when this future star arrived at the
ray household, everyone knew there was a new sheriff in town.  sure, there
was plenty of goofing off at the beach, on picnics, even just toddling down
the driveway--but amy wasn't about to get pushed around by her big sisters,
unless it was in the handy hauler.  there was no doubt amy was going places.
  she didn't have to look very far to find her true calling.

<bury my heart at wounded knee>
     [1990]amy:  "i always knew from the time i started playing guitar that
i wanted to be--like do that--that i was obsessed with music."
     yup, when this little angel wasn't playing dress up or cuddling her
puppy, she spent hours holed up in her room writing songs.

     across town, classmate emily saliers was also quite the go-getter.  she
dressed to impress, and was never afraid to step out of the sandbox and make
herself heard.  pretty soon she was directing all that youthful energy
toward music.
     emily: "i was singing in the choir, and then amy joined the choir, and
we got to be good buddies."
     the two formed more than just a friendship--they formed their own
afterschool group.
     [1989]emily: "the b-band."
     amy: "the b-band--that was our first original name."
     emily: "we made it up in high school.  it made no sense, didn't stand
for anything really."

<shame on you>
     before they could make it big, the b-band needed an a-list name.
amy: "we had a gig coming up at a place called the "moonshadow", and we
decided that we needed to have a name, so i looked in the dictionary
forideas and i saw the word 'indigo'.  and then i asked emily about it--and
that was it."
     [1985]spencer thornton: "and we're back live on 'tracking', ladies and
gentlemen for your viewing pleasure, first time on local cable, i guess, the
indigo girls."
    here they are making their television debut in 1985 on the local music
show 'tracking'.
<land of canaan> "you can go to the east to find your, your inner
hemisphere--i'm lonely tonight."

their performance was tight, and the crowd wanted more.
[1989]  in 1989, the girls landed a big record deal and kissed their cable
access days goodbye.
    emily:  "we played in clubs, and doing everything on our own, and all of
a sudden, we were part of a big recording company.  i couldn't ask for a
better gradual growth of career."
<closer to fine>

[end of transcription]
pictures were scattered through the three-minute feature on our girls.
(reproduced without permission, of course)

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date: sat, 22 jul 2000 12:17:47 edt
subject: [ig-news] july 21, 2000 setlist/review

7-21-00, sacramento, ca memorial auditorium

least complicated
jonas & ezekiel+
soon be to nothing+
gone again
wood song+
shame on you
get out the map
shed your skin
closer to fine+
love will come to you+
faye tucker
romeo & juliet+
midnight train to georgia

the openers mrs. fun and spearhead were both great!  connie from mrs. fun
forewarned us that everyone was feeling really good and to expect a great
show, and was she right!!  the girls seemed happy and smiling, saying they
had lots of fun in sacramento having spent their day off here.  they were
both in absolutely top notch vocal form, bringing chills down my spine
especially during love will come to you.  a cute thing that happened before
they went into wood song: emily started to say, "this song is, nevermind."  then amy stops her and says, "wait, what *is*
it about?"  then she turns to the audience and says, "this is how i learn
what emily's songs are about, during our shows."  so emily continues, "its
about experiencing adversity in life, but in order to appreciate the good
times, you have to experience adversity.  its also about how water wears on
wood." (my quotes are not exact, but close).

christy berger

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date: sat, 22 jul 2000 19:30:21 -0700
from: renee carson <>
subject: [ig-news] ig interview san diego

[sherlyn's note: this message was originally sent to the indigo
girls mailing list at  i'll forward the article
in a moment...]

check this out:

ig are interviewed for the san diego gay and lesbian times.


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date: mon, 24 jul 2000 12:44:00 +1000 (est)
from: sherlyn koo <>
subject: [ig-news] san diego article

hey folks,

here is the article from the san diego gay and lesbian
times which renee mentioned.  the url to see it online

- -sherlyn

- ---begin forwarded article---

mood indigo an interview with emily saliers

by gregg shapiro

the indigo girls' album come on now social was one of the
best albums of 1999, and it's also one of the best albums
of the duo's career. now on the latest leg of their tour
in support of the critically acclaimed disc, amy ray and
emily saliers are coming to san diego july 25 and 26,
where they will play at humphrey's by the bay.

gay & lesbian times: i'd like to begin by congratulating
you, and amy (ray), of course, on the glama (gay and
lesbian american music award) that you received in the
"production" category for the song "trouble" from your
album come on now social. is there anything you'd like to
say about the glamas?

emily saliers: we haven't had a lot of experience with
the organization firsthand, actually. i'm just aware of
them, and i think they do a great thing.  i think that
any time that you take note of the work that gays and
lesbians and bisexuals and transgendered people are doing
in culture and in the arts and the media, that it's a good
thing.  advancing ourselves in the evolution, and working
against homophobia and celebrating ourselves and our art
and our contributions to society - i think that's what
glama does, so i feel good about that.

glt: the indigo girls do a stunning cover of "broken
blossoms" on the wonderful dusty springfield tribute disc
forever dusty. can you tell me how you became involved in
the project?

es: rebekah (radisch, the project's producer) is a very
good friend of ours who we've known for years and years.
we are dusty fans and have listened to her over the years.
we love her voice and her interpretation, so it was kind
of daunting to be doing a cover of a cover song that dusty
did. we tried to pick one that was a little more obscure.
we went in there and tried to give a little bit of a retro
flair. we actually had a lot of fun. those vocal harmony
"woo woos" in the background, we've never done that before.
amy sings about as high as i've ever heard her sing on a
recording. it was fun to do something totally different and
do it for rebecca and do it for a good cause.

glt: the indigo girls are also on the woody guthrie concert
tribute disc 'til we outnumber 'em. you perform the song
"ramblin' round" as a duet with ani difranco. can you tell
me something about that experience?

es: we all love woody because he's a true folk singer. folk
is music of the people. that's really amy's and my roots.
we feel compatible and in sync with his whole message and
philosophy. folk is music of the people. that's really amy's
and my roots. - we're both huge ani fans, and we got to sing
with pete seeger. it just blows your mind. we were feeling
like we were a part of this whole generation of expressions
of folk music. to be singing with a contemporary like ani
was a thrill, but then to be singing with pete seeger, one
of our folk mentors, was amazing. it was that kind of event.

glt: i was fortunate enough to be at both nights, in
chicago, of the suffragette sessions multi-performer concert
that you did a few years ago.  now that there is no more
lilith fair, do you think there will be a time when you and
amy will revive the suffragette sessions?

es: yeah, we definitely will. i don't think we're going to
be able to do it this year. we talked about doing it, then
we just got too busy. we've got our honor the earth in
october, and by that time it will be a year and a half of
touring on this record. we'll definitely revive it. it
takes a lot of organizing, as you can imagine. getting
people's schedules in line. you have to have women who are
willing to be paid barely anything and live on a bus
together. i thought it was a great musical experience and
we're going to do it again.

glt: it was absolutely unforgettable.  what can you tell
me about honor the earth?

es: it's a group that amy and i helped start with some
indigenous community leaders. what it does is raise money
through concerts and donations and other ways, and then
the money goes into a fund, and then different indian
communities apply for grants. they may be doing things
like fighting multinational corporations who want to strip
their land or do coal mining or gold-mining, or there is
the threat of toxic waste dumping on their lands. or they
have cultural sustainability programs, keeping the
languages and their histories alive, all kinds of stuff.
it's a way to support environmental efforts on behalf of
native communities.

glt: speaking of tours, you continue to tour in support of
come on now social, which came out last year. do you
usually tour this long in support of an album?

es: yeah. we usually tour about a year and a half after a
record comes out. it's sort of split up. we may do a
couple of months of college shows and small theaters. we
may do rock clubs, sometimes. summertime is the time for
the shed tour, and that's what we're doing now with a
band. we do stuff acoustically. and then every touring
season we do our honor the earth tour for about a month.
we did suffragette sessions the last time around. there's
a lot of things that we try to do and mix it up. sometimes
we go over to australia or the u.k. it keeps us pretty

glt: are you playing any new songs on this tour?

es: yeah. usually about eight to ten new songs from the
record, and then sometimes amy sings a new song that she's
working on that hasn't been recorded yet. the other part of
the set is a mix of old songs, some acoustic; some
electric; some amy's; some mine.

glt: this leads me to ask whether you've had a chance to go
into the studio to begin working on the next indigo girls

es: no, but we're going to release a retrospective this
fall, and we're going to include two new songs on that
record. we're in the process of deciding which new songs
we're going to pick. we've got to arrange them and then get
in the studio in august and record them and put the record
out in the fall.

glt: that's something to look forward to. you and amy are
best known as a duo, but you have done work separately, as
well. will there come a time when we will be seeing solo
records from you and amy?

es: yes. amy's already working on a solo record. she's got
a bunch of songs, and she's done some recording with the
butchies, who are an awesome band. she's in the process of
recording it; it's just a matter of her finding the time
to get it done. i'd like to make a solo record in the
future, but i'm not exactly sure when. we sort of feel like
whatever we do individually that inspires us is only that
much better for the indigo girls. everything is moving
ahead full-steam.

glt: there is a lot of buzz about the fact that sinead
o'connor has just come out as a lesbian. would you care to
comment on that?

es: i just heard that! i can't believe it!  sinead
o'connor is a beautiful spirit made of many things. if this
is part of her incarnation, then i'm all for it.

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